Rear Seatbelts

[Julian B 1972]

I have a set of Securon 254 seatbelts ready to fit to my 1971 2000. Have seen what appear to be the drilled holes etc, which to my surprise appear to have bolts already in, under the rear seat. Is this likely or am I looking at the wrong thing completely . There are three bolts which seem consistant in number and positioning were I to fit 3 belts. - Am only planning on fitting 2.

The job looks quite straight forward, and reading from posts elsewhere the only likely problem is the fitting of the inertia reel on top of the parcel shelf as this fits close to the rear window.

My car is pretty much rust free so have confidence in where these are to be fitted, but would be interested in the thoughts of others, especially if they have fitted these inertia belts themselves in a 2000.

thanks in advance

Julian

[Alan Chatterton]

No, you are right. The bolts are fitted to protect the threads and to seal the holes from water!

You should have a hole in the wheel arch (visable from by the rear wheel) 2 holes in the centre of the car (for the female end of the belt clips), one for each side and the holes in the parcel shelf. The parcel shelf itself should have pre cut out holes in the backing, you just need to find them and pierce the vinyl.
The top bolts are trickly, but you can get to them.

Very simple job to fit,

[Julian B 1972]

Thanks Alan,

Your expert thoughts are much appreciated.

Also, enjoying watching the stag estate resto

julian

[Alan Chatterton]

Thanks Julian.

You do know what expert means don't you. "Ex" is a has-been and "spurt" is a drip under pressure.......... hmmmmm.

Now, if only fitting rear seatbelts in an estate were as easy.................

[CAR]

Thanks Julian.

You do know what expert means don't you. "Ex" is a has-been and "spurt" is a drip under pressure.......... hmmmmm.

Now, if only fitting rear seatbelts in an estate were as easy.................

Just need an FIA plate with welded on nut and a large hole through the wheelarch bowl to mount the reel on!
I did this on the o/side rear in the estate just before the RBRR. It was ok for Callum, but Dad and I struggled, must have been where I used saloon rear belts, made it like a static 3 point for anyone larger than an 11 year old
It would be nice if you could get a mounting put into the cant rail for a high pivot point or long drop link, then we wouldn't have the belt over the shoulder from lower down. Or fixings in the cant rail and where the wood runs below the rear side window for a bar like a 70s volvo estate.
I thought you were getting something put into this area in Libby?

Colin.

[Steve Knight]

Static belts are fine - are they not? And easier / tidier to fit than the inertia reel block. Will any belt assembly from "another" car fit ? After all its just a lap and diagonal. If using a child seat for instance, I think they can be tightened more reliably. Some modern car inertia belt applications are using an explosive bolt to pre-tighten in an accident; so someone is aware that they become too loose.

[CAR]

The problem with the rear belt in the estate was that it was probably a little too tight and with no way of loosening it off.

The thing you have to be careful with when mounting the inertia reels is the orientation. Were the designed to sit in the same horizontal or vertical plane in the car you have sourced them from.
As you said though Steve, static belts don't throw up this problem and I would agree that child seats in particular feel 'safer' in static belts.

Colin.

[kevinw]

I put rear belts in my saloon and was advised by Seat Belt Services NOT to fit automatic belts in the back as the shelf mountings are not adequate for the reel to be mounted. Whetehr "adequate" means not strong enough or not enough space, I didn't really enquire. I know lots of people have done it, though. The advice I was given was to mount the reel on the wheel arch and fit a top mount on the parcel shelf. Seems like an awful lot of work, so I fitted static ones.

The bottom mounting bolts are hard to get out. I managed to shear the head off one (which takes some doing with high tensile bolts) - I replaced this with a freshly drilled hole and a reinforcement plate. It's not a difficult job to do, but universal joints in fngers help.

Kevin

[CAR]

The bottom mounting bolts are hard to get out. I managed to shear the head off one (which takes some doing with high tensile bolts) - I replaced this with a freshly drilled hole and a reinforcement plate. It's not a difficult job to do, but universal joints in fngers help.

Kevin

Arms like Mr.Tickle would be useful to hold the nut and turn the bolt at the same time. Amanda's Dad did the 'in car' bit, as I lay underneath.....Thanks Len.

Colin.

[stag estate man]

Hi
I fitted rear seat belts to my estate the same way as colin has, and i also fitted a rear facing seat to make it a 7 seater for my twin girls when they were younger leg room was a bit limited but the conversion worked well . before any one says it sounds dodgy illegal etc it was a approved conversion kit from scot seats usually fitted to range rovers, merc estates and the like and came with all mounting plates etc.They did not have be but i welded all the mounting plates to the boot floor. The seat can be removed with just two wing nut type bolts and all that remains are the mounting brackets and the rear facing lap belts.
cheers grahame