Fitting Interior door handles and window winders

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Fitting Interior door handles and window winders

#1 Post by Carboy0 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:27 pm

Trying to fit these things and they have been fighting back. Is there a knack?
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#2 Post by tony » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:28 pm

Pair of long nosed pliers and a lot of patience :cry:
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#3 Post by johnnydog » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:02 pm

It can be a bit of a fiddle Chris, but the simplest way I've found is to place the black base on the door card ensuring the peg is correctly located into the door card, place the handle over it ensuring before you start that the hole in the square 'peg' of the mech is vertical. I find experimenting before you start with the window fully wound up as to where you want the winder to rest when the window is up - preferably at about 8 o'clock, and then wind it down to the most convenient working position. Sometimes the pin only will go in in one direction so the mech has to be turned to take this into account to drop the pin from the the top side. Put the outer winder handle on, but have a medium sized flat bladed screwdriver between the base and the winder. Pressing with your other hand, twist the screwdriver against the cone spring pressure (the cone spring is positioned under the door card thin end to the door panel), so that there is a gap between the base and the winder. Swap hands (if necessary!!), holding the screwdriver steady, use a pair of long nosed pliers to put the pin through the hole from the top, tapered end first. Then release the pressure on the spring/winder and Bobs your Uncle (and Fanny's your Aunt) as they say..... :lol:

The interior handle is just two large headed cross headed machine screws and should be pretty straightforward.
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#4 Post by johnnydog » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:06 pm

tony wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:29 pm
..... and a bit of patience :cry:
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Definitely ^^^^!!
When you've done it a couple of times, as with most things, it becomes a lot easier! :?
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Re: Fitting Interior door handles and window winders

#5 Post by Carboy0 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:37 pm

ThanksJohn - having another go on Wednesday - I’ll let you all know how it goes.
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Re: Fitting Interior door handles and window winders

#6 Post by tony » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:20 am

Another trick that I've done is to chamfer the end of a bit of 1/8" bronze welding rod about 6" long and push it in from the bottom and push the pin in from the top dislodging the rod as I go. Hope this makes sense.
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Re: Fitting Interior door handles and window winders

#7 Post by Charles H » Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:54 am

Magnetic small screwdriver for me!
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Re: Fitting Interior door handles and window winders

#8 Post by Clifford Pope » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:11 am

With the spring in place behind the door card, wider end against the card, press the card against the spring with your knee.
Put the escutcheon spacer thing in place, but twisted so that it blocks the lower hole to stop the pin falling through, then push the other side in just far enough to get the pin in.
If it's the tapered kind of pin it's easier because you can get it started in the hole without having to uncover so much of the hole at the other side. Then push it in with a small screwdriver until the end just clears the edge of the escutcheon plate and let the spring push the card and escutcheon outwards so that it covers both ends of the hole.

I've read of tricks like holding the pin in a piece of thin tubing, or using vaseline so that it can't fall out of the hole.
I've come across 3 kinds of pin - straight-sided that falls right through, tapered that still falls right through, and tapered that must match a taper in the shank hole because they only go in one way round.
I have come across a few that almost go into position but remain sticking out just enough so that the escutcheopn plate won't quite fit over. That kind are maddening because you have to force it out backwards and then risk dropping it.

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Re: Fitting Interior door handles and window winders

#9 Post by Carboy0 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:18 am

Thanks guys, a combination of your advice did the trick, plus an idea of our own.

We used some heavy bearing grease squidged into the hole. When you manage to finesse the pin in, the grease holds it in place, until you release the pressure on the spring, when friction against the hole holds everything in place.
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